Phil and Tyler sit down with Drew Hyun, Lead Pastor of Hope Church NYC and Executive Director of Emotionally Healthy Discipleship (EHD), to explore why emotional health is foundational for effective ministry leadership.
Drew shares his ministry journey—from serving under Pete Scazzero at New Life Fellowship to planting Hope Church NYC and eventually stepping into leadership of Emotionally Healthy Discipleship. He reflects on how becoming a lead pastor revealed the importance of emotional health in ways he had never fully understood before. The conversation explores why executive pastors and highly driven leaders often struggle with emotional awareness, the relationship between emotional maturity and ministry effectiveness, and practical ways leaders can begin pursuing greater self-awareness. Drew also offers an inside look at the future of Emotionally Healthy Discipleship, including the School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership, a new Order of Emotionally Healthy Leaders, and Pete Scazzero’s upcoming book on redefining success in ministry.
This episode is a thoughtful invitation for church leaders to pursue both the Great Commandment and the Great Commission, recognizing that healthy ministry begins with healthy leaders.
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CHAPTERS
[02:54] – Drew Hyun’s ministry journey
[09:12] – Why emotionally healthy leadership matters
[14:08] – Growing in self-awareness as a leader
[19:00] – Practical first steps toward emotional health
[23:50] – Leading two organizations without burning out
[35:09] – The future of Emotionally Healthy Discipleship
[42:00] – Resources and next steps for church leaders
[42:53] – Wrap up
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