Backstage Pastors Episode 17: The “Yes Test” with your Senior Leader w/ Holly Tate

Executive pastors and second-chair leaders are often responsible for turning a senior leader’s vision into action, but what happens when there are more ideas than the organization can realistically execute? Holly Tate of The Ready Network joins Phil and Tyler to discuss sustainable growth, second-chair leadership, and becoming “yes-obsessed.”

Holly introduces the Yes Test, a five-question framework that helps church leaders evaluate new opportunities, protect organizational focus, and determine what deserves a yes and what needs a no.

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CHAPTERS

[03:01] – Holly Tate’s Leadership Journey

[09:18] – Helping Leaders and Teams Prepare for Growth

[12:59] – What It Means to Be Yes-Obsessed

[16:21] – The Yes Test for Second-Chair Leaders

[20:24] – Five Questions for Evaluating New Opportunities

[28:01] – Leading Up and Earning a Seat at the Table

[34:00] – Building Healthier Church Boards

[36:23] – Using AI to Help Executives Stay Focused

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